Watch Per Capita event

Filmed on 21 May at Melbourne University, Jenny Macklin and Joel Deane talk to Per Capita’s Sarah McKenzie about their book, Making Progress: How Good Policy Happens. It’s a wide-ranging, hour-long conversation in which Jenny — former Labor Deputy Leader — talks about reforms such as paid parental leave and the National Disability Insurance Scheme, competing for leadership positions with Julia Gillard, and the future of policy reforms.